Phil was recently a guest on the podcast Pipelines and Turbines hosted by Jason Switzer, Leor Rotchild and Dan Zilnik. This podcast covers energy issues in Canada.

Phil talks about a range of topics including why it’s so difficult to scale clean energy technologies, pathways to decarbonize hard to abate sectors in industry, and his work at the National Research Council.

You can listen to the podcast episode below.

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